Black bears Were all around me growing up, still is a large population where I'm from. Spoiler block is one of the options. I bet my 100$ on that a kodiak or a polar bear would destroy any lion or tiger you will bring. Lack stamina. In fact there is a suck video circulating of a lioness and sun bear fight. And that video regardless shows a cougar mother running off a grizzly that doesn't want to fight not actually beating it in a fight. Wow... A grizzly can kill any land animal on Earth with one paw swipe? I've actually encountered them, and to me they are the top big cats without question. However wasn't know until many years later that the lion was extremely old, and even de clawed. @bonesaw: false information show the actual fight or it's bot valid. Sun bear is less then a black bear it holds its own just fine thank you. A bull and bear fight in California, 1876. Yes you did say the lion had zero chance of winning, again you're wrong, here's your quote from earlier: Should I believe more than 25 published writings from newspaper companies depicting lions killing grizzlies, a handful of expert opinion favouring the lion over the grizzly, or your own opinion? As will sonnet would say, *No brag, Just fact$.". I can agree with most, but, most male lions are actually solitary animals, most don't have a pride. Depending on which type of bear he's fighting. Bear v.s Lion "Paris, Saturday, - Masserini's menagerie has been the scene of a combat between a large bear and a lion, which took place before the eyes of a great number of spectators. The articles clearly state that both animals have claws and are ripping flesh from each other. Regardless of whether we agree or not I think we can at least agree that none would really win in the end. Lions fighting and killing adult rhinoceroses…, Lion pride specialises in killing hippos…, Botswana Safari | Feeding | Botswana Wildlife Guide, Four lions kill an adult hippo, while another two kill an adult hippo…, Hippos made up 17% of the lions’ diet (In the area of the study)…, Coalition of male lions kill three hippos in one month…. No didn't change my tune, you just didn't pick up on the obvious figure of speech. Against black bears yes I can see that. 16:35. Really? They several mistreated the animals even starved them nice try though. Especially since you've done nothing but make incorrect claims, your opinion has no credibility whatsoever... You stated that a grizzly can kill any land animal with one swipe. However, a Lion or any other big predator could not withstand the heavy swipes from its paw. 7. A lion has evolved to be the apex predator, they live exclusive on the ability to hunt and kill other animals, often ones smaller than themselves or use teamwork to bring down bigger things, if not simply using their greater size to steal a meal from others. End meaning stun, take out of the fight, make not want to fight anymore. From some who thinks a wolverine would beat a polar bear in a fight... Who also thinks a gorilla would beat a grizzly in a fight... http://www.compareanimal.com/2014/12/compare-grizzly-bear-vs-western-gorilla.html. And yes some animals definitely would die. ... Prey Animals vs Predator Fight Back Lion vs Buffalo vs Bear. Ect. I know more about lions or black bears and mountain lions certainly. It's up to you as to who you support in a fight between a lion and a grizzly. @bonesaw: More proof When I already gave it? It's a close savage bloody fight. Lion predation on the African Black Rhinoceros and its potential effect on management. I also never stated NEVER could win. Animals Fighting | Lion Attacks Tiger Crocodile Bear Amazing Fight To Death Exclusive Video. 8:41. In another corner, a Bengal Tiger. The bears are far more powerful. @bonesaw: I got the OP. Zero chance without ambush or numbers yes. Ah, the classic tiger vs grizzly bear. While I don't claim to be an expert I certainly have had enough experience to make a claim whether you disagree or not. "That I've some experience with actual wild animals not a brag, seriously don't know how you missed that. So, all of what I've posted here is trumped by a video depicting a stalemate between a lioness and an Asiatic black bear? Again I like Lions much more, but it's just not true that they can defeat a large bear. to make money on bets. The lion's mane protects him from attack: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=S11g9BNo_tsC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=lions+mane+protects+fights&source=bl&ots=B-b92J_Ll_&sig=8Agb-J24UhX0bFk4pzXzukKNHB8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lh4PUNPXF-H8iwL994CABw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false, http://www.tigercanyons.co.za/newsletters68.html, https://books.google.com.au/books?id=IQ9ysBIFrnwC&pg=PA190&dq=zoo+lion+tiger+fight+neck&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bB6_VKToCYi4oQS2uoKAAg&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=zoo%20lion%20tiger%20fight%20neck&f=false, https://books.google.com.au/books?id=JTPxAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA16&dq=mane+lion+protects+neck&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ByC_VLHuKdivoQSSroDACA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mane%20lion%20protects%20neck&f=false, https://books.google.com.au/books?id=gIGVnQsouDEC&pg=PA13&dq=mane+lion+protects+neck&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ByC_VLHuKdivoQSSroDACA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=mane%20lion%20protects%20neck&f=false, "false information show the actual fight or it's bot valid. This changes nothing. Highlight what you want to put in the spoiler block and hit that button. Showing grizzlies pushing each other isn't an accurate way to show what they CAN do. Polar bear vs Tiger. That would be like saying because Honey badgers kill some snakes, like the cobra, then they can kill all snakes even though there's little to suggest they could ever contend with weighty snakes, like the anaconda. I found a pack of Red wolves near my families land, that were supposedly extinct in that area. We cannot imagine he can eat anymore without his stomach bursting, but tonight he gave it five minutes. Against a grizzly or polar it's bot even close. "What a rabbit hole this thread is. When you are typing your post you'll see a bunch of options just above the text box. Californian grizzly bear named Monarch and an African lion named Parnell were to have a fight in a cage, arranged by their trainer, David Boone. Lions were rare in Ancient Rome, and human sacrifice was banned there by Numa Pompilius in the 7th century BC, according to legend. Wolves occasionally kill grizzlies and vice versa... https://books.google.com.au/books?id=wcJ4GzdgnUQC&pg=PT102&dq=two+grizzly+bears+was+killed+wolves&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=two%20grizzly%20bears%20was%20killed%20wolves&f=false, https://defenders.org/press-release/canadian-park-needs-grizzly-conservation-plan. Still had zero chance against the grizzly if it had wanted to press the issue. No, if they were in bad condition the newspaper would have specified. Inside this cage are four smaller cages, one in each corner. In a cage none of these animals want to fight they just want out. While there are less than 7 accounts of brown bears killing adult lions. Not from that picture, no. Watch Queue Queue The bear in that video is so much less then the grizzly it's not even funny. Still the tiger was Injured. Lion Rare Unbelievable Fights | Lion Attacks Tiger Rhino Cheetah Elephant | Amazing Animals Fight. But I agree with you, a 1500 pound polar or kodiak bear is too much. And cute video of a. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Out+into+the+middle+of+the+arena+came+men+with+nets,+quietly+approaching+the+victorious+lion&num=20&tbm=bks&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=ZsIxWvrlF6HXgAab-4eIBw, Lion kills bear with one swipe of the paw… (Book written in 1988), Lion breaks grizzly's spine and kills him... (1895), http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/ar...&searchLimits=, King of Sweden’s Barbary lion kills European brown bear with one blow… (1895), Menelik the lion Kills President the very large grizzly bear… (1935), African lion chases off mother grizzly bear, and kills one of her cubs… (1950), Lion kills big brown bear with one blow… (1924), Lion avenges a dog and kills a bear… (Book written in 1991), Lion defeats very large brown bear… (Book written in 2012), Three lionesses fight three bears, and kill one of the bruin… (1895). So...my point stands. Watch the sun bear vs lioness video for further reference, That video of a puma over a grizzly is part of a movie not am actually an event. Herb caught a 6 foot catfish it was this big... stories in many areas are stories. To be honest I'm not really fond of you, and I don't feel like getting to know you. "You did out the effort into finding things but still don't work in the end.". You also cannot differentiate between a sun bear and an Asiatic black bear. Lion VS Best animals fights with wild animals lion tiger bear attack animal fight. The lion can also stun the bear with a blow of his paw, which again can allow the lion to attack his throat. And most of them were black bears anyway not grizzlies certainly not a polar bear. And some you posted was if a time when animal fights brought big money in bets before they were busted. Documentary hd. Now a male Lion has a small chance but it's slim.". While I don't claim to be an expert I certainly have had enough experience to make a claim whether you disagree or not. You talk about grizzlies like their gods among animals. And as for not helping my case, It doesn't hurt at all and was posted to show That I've some experience with actual wild animals not a brag, seriously don't know how you missed that. ~ George Takai minutes before being destroyed by wild animals. -Lol. 8. As the bite is not necessary to kill, the blow from the mighty paws having already destroyed all power of resistance.”, ~The book of popular science vol 2 Grolier Society, 1957. No, only a documentary would do this because they want to teach the viewer something... You cannot differentiate between a documentary and a movie. Although tigers are the strongest physically of the big cats.well Siberian Tiger. VS. POLAR BEAR Jacksonville, "Pla., Nor. It comes up with a red box and it says something went wrong. ', http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/animal-fight-club/, "Most of those things you posted are of malnurished females not the larger males. So this automatically means a male lion has "zero chance" against a grizzly? Here's some written information that states the lion in fact has a big strong skull: The cranium is thick and strong, and the skull can cope with the stresses of struggling prey... https://books.google.com.au/books?id=mTPI_d9fyLAC&pg=PA171&dq=lion+thick+strong+skull&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjN1KK5tIbYAhUMmZQKHTL7A2gQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=lion%20thick%20strong%20skull&f=false, https://books.google.com.au/books?id=GGUXI4MNEUUC&pg=PA158&dq=lion+thick+strong+skull&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjN1KK5tIbYAhUMmZQKHTL7A2gQ6AEILTAB#v=onepage&q=lion%20thick%20strong%20skull&f=false. Bear vs Lion – Fight Rules Before attempting to answer which of these predators would win such an unlikely yet deadly duel, we must consider what form of combat would make the contest fair. You can't tell the difference between a movie and a documentary. I suppose you'd have us believe that some bloodhounds can kill Panthers on the norm now?? A giant cage match sure to make you go "Oh my!". I would back a 650 lb male lion against an 850 lb grizzly bear. Before these Illegal rings were brought down many animals suffered so what you post doesn't hold anymore water then the video I brought. Bear, as OP said, during the goldrush they staged these kinds of fights and the bear would generally win because the lion doesn't have the bone strength to withstand the bear taking a swing at it without breaking something. vs male African Lion 500lbs. The lion stood over him, gnawing at the bear's throat. He has done well to keep other scavengers off so far to have this feast all to himself – we wonder for how long…. As any top predator would do. Sun bear is less then a black bear it holds its own just fine thank you. For those who do not know, giant eland is the largest antelope in the world, with bulls weighing over 1,000 kilograms (2,200 pounds). Have you met these animals in person? Lol. Janetshearman67. Susancobb46. One you can t out two predators in a cage and expect a normal fight that would happen. And we can indeed agree too disagree, doesn't bother me really. Not sure why that's relevant. A pride could decimate a grizzly, even three could win well. If you pay attention to the dates, you can see it says 1956 on it, and in florida sarsota, an easy search can show the lions that were there at the time: http://gorillasdontblog.blogspot.com...h-17-1956.html. Tiger vs Lion, Big Cage Fight from 1933, uncut Version. ... at a zoo and the tiger managed to reach through the cage and severed the Lions artery just leaving ... done to a bear, it can be done to any lion. 3. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Also that video was originally in a movie that was later reused in a documentary....The male lion black bear was most definitely a movie. I love mountain lions even more them lions. The lion is quick, but lions do not hunt or kill animals by themselves. One you can t out two predators in a cage and expect a normal fight that would happen. Hippo 3500lbs. Dude, a sun bear weighs 130 pounds... You must be confused if you would consider that a viable match up for a male lion. "There is a link to a real on screen fight between a sun bear and lioness. Plus I use to feed Nakita a mountain lion in my home county, I'm a zoo like setting. Bonus round: The Lion is Lion-o, the Tiger is meme Charlie Sheen, the bear is Bear Gryllis, and George gets a thu'um of "Oh, my!" And it's a black bear. Some of the very large lions and lionesses literally look like they're on anabolic steroids... You should use spoiler blocks to cut down on your post size. The thread you made was "A lion would beat a bear in a fight" not "An adult African male Lion would beat a black bear" You've presented arguments in favor of lions beating bears in combat, and I've given you a counter example. Plus, this poster hasn't sourced any of his information. They had bitten another bear's paw off, and a hyena lay dead on the floor. Regardless of whether we agree or not I think we can at least agree that none would really win in the end". You do not apparently know history in regards to the early points of the early century up until the early 80's YES those animals were severely mistreated and starved. Lions have even killed juvenile elephants... Two lionesses bring down a 10-year old elephant cow…. Again, this is just a bullshit claim. It's a close savage bloody fight. This is does not help your awful case whatsoever. "Zero chance without ambush or numbers yes.". You haven't shown any evidence whatsoever. But I don't brag about my experiences. Pretty doubtful he'd be physically able to do much. Both healthy. If he tries to hug the lion, the latter will claw his underbelly to pieces, and the lion will bite his throat. Likewise their omnivore diet means they have to be able to get food where it is, whenever it's under big rocks or rotting trunks, they have to have the muscle and bones to deal with that. As in most cases of the so called examples you give above. Cheetah 130lbs. Then a pitiful cry came from the bear and blood began to flow into the sand. Try keeping thread titles from being misleading. Ear being startled by something it didn't see or smell. Far more clear indication then the many unknown storeis from who knows how long ago. A black bear or sun bear is more in the range of a lion. One video of a lioness stalemating a black bear vs 25 accounts of lions killing grizzlies, as well as expert opinions and writings... "And some you posted was if a time when animal fights brought big money in bets before they were busted.". That famous case was used in many tiger over lion fight discussions. Therefore, you're completely lacking of knowledge about animals. @bonesaw: If it was 850 pounds yeah I'd back the lion as well, @bonesaw: didn't say kill always with a swipe but I would be over the affect would dazed any other predator, That video of a puma over a grizzly is part of a movie not am actually an event. 5. ', @bonesaw: well obviously I didn't notice the markings so I stand corrected on that alone. The first three cages will be opened simultaneously, with George's cage being opened 2 minutes later. Biblioteca. In normal circumstances, Panthera leo spelaea would steer well clear of caves populated by Ursus spelaeus, but since the survival of the pack is at stake, the Cave Lions decide to take the risk. Write properly, it's hard to have a civil debate with someone who is constantly leaving words out of their sentences and making spelling mistakes. Also, can you please stop with the grammatical errors? The fact that you did means you can no longer stay relevant to this prompt, and are now simply posting meaningless walls of text. You can't just title a thread stating that a lion beats a bear, and then later openly admit that the biggest bears beat the biggest lions.". I love mountain lions even more them lions. You were wrong about lions only being able to kill malnourished or female grizzlies. 2. 4:32. Again, you're purely in denial. That other post is too big or something. So now that I spelled it out for you and filled in the blanks you can relax. Your whole argument is based around a video of a lioness stalemating a black bear? Out into the middle of the arena came men with nets, quietly approaching the victorious lion to throw their nets over him and drag him away. that does something fitting, using Skyrim game mechanics (recharge included.) Bear vs. lion -- it will be a good fight, but bear will prevail. But one not seeing how. But, I can admit, a 1500 lb kodiak or polar bear is too much. I'm not saying that a cougar or a wolf pack would always defeat a grizzly, not even close. Grizzly Bear Vs African lion Fight– The weather is mild spring I elaborated at the start of my thread that I support the African lion against a grizzly, I never said I would favour it over a polar or kodiak bear. There was a famous story about a tiger killing a lion, though the tiger was severely Injured. Thanks. You are indeed where you belong. A lion can strike with much greater ability than a grizzly bear: A big brown bear is unable to hold its own against two bulldogs with its paws…, Yet a male lion can hold its own against six bulldogs, and even kill one of them with a single blow of the paw…. Siberian Tiger 600lbs. I doubt you or I are going to concede, therefore there is no point continuing this discussion. I mean for god sake, you actually believe that a grizzly bear can end any land animal with a single paw swipe. Brief conflit between a male lion and a brown bear ("grizzly bear") for food thrown by zoo visitors to them in order to make them fight each other. Now a male Lion has a small chance but it's slim. @bonesaw: Again I said end not kill. Seguir. We estimate Shadow to be around 220-230 kg but that is tiny compared to the possible 700–800 kg Eland bull. Black bears Were all around me growing up, still is a large population where I'm from. There also one of a panther vs hound dogs from those very same people. The condition of the lion is important, I wager there is not a single account of a black bear killing an adult male maned lion. The condition of EACH animal is important. I'm sorry, but only someone who knows nothing about animals would ever say such a thing. There are more than 25 historical accounts of lions killing adult brown bears. He has been on the kill for the last few days with hundreds of kilograms of meat at his paws. There are even accounts of cougars and wolf packs killing full grown grizzlies: Artefact of a cougar defeating a black bear…, Cougar kills 900–1000 pound grizzly bear…, A cougar who killed a full grown grizzly…, Artefact of a cougar killing a grizzly bear with a throat bite…, Grizzly bears are killed by both wolves and cougars…. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The lion's paw is the Nasmyth's hammer in nature”…, “As a cat claws at a mouse which moves, not to kill, but merely to retain it, so the lion strikes with his sledge-hammer limb at the at head or leg or hand which his victim moves. As far as those stories, again context matters. Bold, italics, quotes, etc. They are formidable assailants, often times too big for leopards, hyenas or wild dogs to attack. 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